You’ve never seen a stubborn refusal to change when it comes to the more religious believers of darwinism.

Actually, this couldn’t be further than the truth … the whole concept of the scientific method is that concepts are changed … as new evidence is found, theory’s are adapted and revised.

Refusal to accept a concept that lacks facts, experimentation, and peer review is something that most scientists would gladly admit to.

a former darwinist who actually was willing to really, truly, consider challenges to his darwinian beliefs…(Are you?)

To what? A creationist idea? Sorry, but that’s a completely backwards step.

Regardless … ‘darwinism’ isn’t a belief system … ‘darwinism’ isn’t anything. Acceptance of science is all that maters.

Are you saying that you have abandoned science & reason in favor of myth and dogma? If this is the case, then I feel sorry for you.

Adam Savage shows some historical illiteracy and some short-circuit logic:

#1.Scientific method in the real world:

a.In the real world, Adam Savage cannot quote ONE creationist who asserts that the scientific method is religious.

b.In the real world.It was creationists like Roger Bacon who formalized the scientific method by steps.

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#2.Science exploration in the world:

“That kind of attack absolutely is damaging science exploration across the whole country.”

—a.Any attack on the scientific method is damaging to science activities for sure.

—b.It was creationists like Isaac Newton, a young-earth creationist, who birthed modern science and science exploration across all countries of the world.

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#3.Willingness to have your mind changed:

–You’ve never seen a stubborn refusal to change when it comes to the more religious believers of darwinism.

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–From Alan,
a former darwinist who actually was willing to really, truly, consider challenges to his darwinian beliefs…(Are you?)

David> When it comes to modern theistic religions I would be considered an atheist. But when it comes to the deistic idea that there is a created of the universe then I would be agnostic, and if the highly unlikely possibility that a god created the universe, he would be to complex for us to even understand and that god wouldn’t care at all for human life.

I am from another country but was in America for 10 years. I used to look up to and admire America for its advanced education and technology. But after experiencing this debate, I start to think maybe the respect for America is misplaced. Why would these creationists want to make America the laughing stock to the whole civilized world is beyond me. Amazingly the other group of people who shares similar idea about ‘Creationism’ are the Muslims fundermentalists in the Middle East who still think the world is flat.

Agnostic – without knowledge of a god/gods
Atheist – without belief of a god/gods

I don’t KNOW that god doesn’t exist.

I think this indicates you are agnostic, not atheist. Atheists KNOW that god doesn’t exist. Agnostics know that they don’t know if god exists or not.

Or was that a typo?

Which is why I say I’m an atheist, even though I don’t believe that god exists. I don’t KNOW that god doesn’t exist. I couldn’t carry the heart of a scientist and say otherwise.